My God, have you really shot or even handled one? Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. I went through 4 LCP. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. The warranty cant be beat. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . I normally enjoy Truth about guns. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Great little pistol. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. You must not even be able to read. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. Years ago a mentor and I were at a range with an iron 30 plate/gong at 270 yards. No aluminum. I also have the Kahr. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. I can do it blind folded. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. I own a hp380. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. Im pretty surprised the P3AT isnt on this list. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. So special, they ride the short bus. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. I have two of the Picos. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. Ive no complaints. Ruger LCP Max 2. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. Thats along what I was thinking. Small, accurate and reliable. I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. Its manageable. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. I have 2 of them. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. OMG! It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. Tiny little semi-automatics sure, there are many good ones and many bad ones. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. The one I had was utter shit. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. Is it possible to find a Hellcat II that runs well, shoots well and fits well? Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. It came back still not fixed. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. Because they werent reliable? Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. No thanks. No problems what so ever. Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. WebBeretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Funny. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Do you perhaps have a very early one? I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. None. And for sure never shot one. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. Thats a lot! YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) 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