We have no idea why the order was issued. If you had to posit how many folks are involved here with your theory, i.e. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. @Amber- Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. They want to keep him in the dark. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. 7) Hes local. This may extend to age 15. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. It was February 13, 2017 when 13-year-old Abby Williams and her best friend, 14-year-old Libby German, went on a walk on Delphi's historic trails. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. So if any POIs happen to get charged with a felony (not related to being BG), it's a hurry up and wait but don't take too long kind of game. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. You are promoting mob mentality here - after all not everyone youve named can be BG. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. I dont know if they were part of the search parties. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. A lot of my friends didnt join. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. KAK and his Dad. Always. If DP sues Skip and/or TCG for defamation, that will result in near certainty about his involvement. Mehrfach war er vor Ort, um den dort lebenden Menschen Hilfe zukommen zu lassen. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. The man who owns the document is not happy with us going public with these docs. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. LE asked him to move the vehicle. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. I cant demand that my friends give me money! Its at his home on a shelf! We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is . These are simply unverified rumors. Also to True Crime Garage. In 2004, police on Big Pine Key responded to a gruesome scene. DELPHI, Ind. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. Well, hes the right age anyway. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. Thank you. I just donated via PayPal. I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. Im leaving it at that. Not so much for 15 year old girls. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs. Hes innocent. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. In the Delphi Murders: 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Too much points to them to be coincidence. DELPHI, Ind. It's really not that hard. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. Corn fields? I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Nic comes on and says hes not on here to discuss suspects and literally does just that. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. (WISH) News 8 has learned hundreds of tips have come in to authorities about a social media profile that may be connected to the 2017 Delphi murders of two teens. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. Twice they were wrong. cherrygemgem 1 yr. ago. I personally find it odd for a tryst. Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. We believe him. One daughter, estranged. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. Get real. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. We want to stress that Kline has not been charged in the murders of Abby and Libby. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Murders. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? Oh, one more thing, Jim. Twice in the the Evansdale Murders, LE thought they were certain that they had the right man. Not the people who called him distasteful. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. But no, that was not the case. If I can figure out how to post them here.. But we are not naming person. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. TCG with Skip Jansen made a compelling argument as to why & how this person could be responsible. Neither one can possibly be BG. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. And two girls were abducted there also. February 13 is 2/13. Shop eBooks and audiobooks at Rakuten Kobo. It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Thats a full 18 hours. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. People have said DP used to be highly active on Facebook and on Reddit in relation to the Delphi murders prior to the second sketch being released. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! who put himself at the crime scene at 3pm. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. Skip said something on the true crime garage podcast that sounded to me like he is not in law enforcement. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. Let me jump in here. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? Correct. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Unverified but Likely. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. Were you a member of the private group? Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. The guys and Skip talked about DPs place within the timeline on the day of the murders, went into some details about his role in regards to a supposed "couple arguing" under the bridge within minutes of the time of the murders, and the woman involved in his alleged alibi. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Etc. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. Among other things, Carroll . He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. Its not clear how? Hmm . We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Tonight I will welcome my special guest Skip Jansen as we discuss current events going on in the Delphi case. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an LE source close to the investigation. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? Delphi Murders - Live - Discussion with Skip Jansen and Fig. Just another character who got caught with CP. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. So far, Indiana State Police has not publicly connected Kline with the girls deaths, but investigators have talked about the Delphi case in both of their news releases about Kline and the social media account. Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? But about that fake DP Facebook account 3 days ago, New Cricket made a post here talking about the possibility of BG having a martial arts background and included links to a couple of old newspaper articles showing DP with his martial arts class when he was younger. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. We do indeed have documents from the case. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. Is that also speculation? Its buried under settlement and underbrush. Weird, because on my feed his post shows up just 4 or 5 posts after this one, along with all 120 comments, including some made in the last few minutes. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? Did he eat? Hey, its a capitalist country, right? The 50-year-old married man arrested on Friday in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders has now been pictured for the first time - more than five years on from the double slaying of teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams.. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody at around midnight and booked into Carroll County Jail. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. Oh, one more thing. They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. Instead, people attacked /u/SkipJanson about going to Delphi when so many others like BitterBeatPoet were glorified for doing so and posted all over without issue. Would you be able to send me any sort of timeline map to help me with my own investigation? Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. He could have called his wife, who was friends with Becky Patty, and the wife could have told him about the girls going missing. Why dont you do a show on our theories. These idiot cops. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Anyone with information was asked to contact abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535, and provide as much information as possible, such as when and how you communicated with anthony_shots, what social media apps were used, and if anthony_shots attempted to meet you or get your address. A pair of binoculars. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. I dont know what these names mean. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. We now have search party members who saw the crime scene; official case documents; the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents; accurate crime scene photos; and the best LE sources we have ever had. BG is a 50 year old man. I find it odd that he initially said it was his girlfriend then changed it to another female. Again, not saying that he did it. Right? Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. Drunkard perhaps. . The other person involved that is kin to this POI. It is so bizarre, especially because Skip wasn't even the OP. Maybe on a dark spiritual level, yes, but I think the Delphi killer has nothing to do with the other murders now. Where was Abby's body found? You can tell by many things gait, body shape, manner of walking, voice, etc. Wheres the rest of it? If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. I believe that the reason LE has been so tight-lipped is because they know that the killer is following the case very closely. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. He would just tell me how beautiful I am, that I should come stay the night at his house, let him take me out of state, said the woman on the podcast. 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