After sewing on a tag and sporting a proud smile as I offered it up for inspection to that gorilla-of-gunner, I was sent scurrying away, ears ringing from slaps and vehement words, asking myself, 'How the hell did I mange to sew the tag on upside-down?'. He was sitting on a stool and told me to stand in front of him and begin. Now i know why! Read about our approach to external linking. Thus was the nature of Ganges harsh training regime. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits. Discipline was severe, routine constant and fear of punishment loomed at every turn. He was quite good too. It had to be a joke! I recall watching a boy, who had been thrown in the deep end of the swimming pool, struggling in the water while a sadistic instructor smiled, saying, 'Look what happens if you can't bloody well swim?' She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. We can reunite you with your friends who served at HMS Ganges and we have a wealth of information on different units, bases and ships in the site. MT2 Served from 1965 - 2021 Served in HMS Ganges. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. HMS Ganges had a reputation for its harsh discipline. Peter Ohara. Editors' Code of Practice. Yes indeed, they were the best of times and the worst of times. A Gannett Company. The pipe (whistle) was used aboard ship for passing orders and instructions. Each time I let it go off it popped, falling to the deck with a clatter. Most boys just wanted to complete their year and go to sea. It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. This page is dedicated to the memory of Tony whose commitment to the Royal Navy and especially HMS Ganges was unlimited. http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/hms-ganges-swimming-pool-shotley-may-2015.t96792, Anniversary Toast - HMS RALEIGH 25th Oct 2009, Telegraph: "Captain Peter Grindal Obituary", Future Ford vehicles could repossess themselves, 10 myths told by Covid 'experts' now debunked. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy, Please enter a password with 6 characters or more. To get to the platform you would climb out over the Devil's Elbow, legs dangling in the air, only your grip keeping you from certain death. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? We were ushered in as a group of naked boys and told to wash thoroughly. In 1905 when the Ganges vessel was finally retired (and towed away to Chatham), the training facility, still named HMS Ganges, moved ashore. Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. Such a tragedy that this historical place has been left to rot. NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE, HE'S NOT HERE TODAYTHE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAYFIFTEEN YEARS OF LEARNING, HE'LL NOT GO DOWN THE MINESO WE TOOK HIM NEAR TO IPSWICH TOWNFAR FROM THE SEAMS OF THE TYNEIN A PLACE THEY STILL CALL 'GANGES' WITH TWO THOUSAND OTHER BOYSHE LEARNED TO SPLICE AND SAIL A BOATTALL ORDERS WERE HIS TOYSTHE 'BULLY BOYS' CAME NIGHTLY, DID THINGS A BOY COUNDN'T TELLBUT THEY MADE HIM WRITE IN HIS LETTERS HOME MAMMA YOU'R BOY'S DOIN WELLTHEN NEWS CAME OF SOME FIGHTING IN A FAR OFF DISTANT LANDWE NEED THOSE BOYS THUS SPAKE FOUR RINGSIN OUR BIG SHIPS THEY CAN RIDEIT'S WRITTEN ON HIS PAPERS, TWAS NOT THE DEED OF A MAN BUT A WAVE THAT TOOK MY GEORDIE BOYFIVE MILES OFF PLYMOUTH SOUNDSO NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE HE'S NOT HERE TODAY THE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAY. 1976. they said. Royal Navy 238217 Boy 2nd Class HMS Ganges II. George Blake joined the Navy in 1935 and served up to 1950. Down the road we proudly thundered, the first time any of us had seen the outside words since the day of our arrival. HMS Ganges Museum is dedicated to the 160,000 boys who went through the gates as boys and marched out as men, from its inception as a Royal Navy Training Establishment in 1905 to its closure in 1976. interesting .. photos of the old pool. The culprit was brought before the Commanders table, the punishment was awarded as six or twelve cuts. Well this seems a good time to see if this site works properly. Used to have chats with old Tick-Tock and RPO Salmon gave me my 1 postal order when the max was really ten bob. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . It closed in 1998 or something. Developers Wavensmere Homes and Galliard Homes plan to build almost 300 homes on the site and include a restored mast in the development. The Royal Navy training mast in Shotley Gate, pictured in 1936, was erected in 1907, A photograph of the base taken sometime in the 1950s (left), with recruits on the mast in 1937, with one recruit just about visible near the very top, John Youngman said his training at the site stood him in good stead for the rest of his life, Warning: Third party content may contain adverts, A pupil band from The Royal Hospital School performed at the event, It is expected to take at least a year to restore the mast at the tip of the Shotley peninsula, across the water from Felixstowe and Harwich. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Indeed, I have never met a shipmate would ever claim otherwise. Observer career path/ real life experience. Abuse Details. A Proceeds of Crime Act hearing is due to take place at Portsmouth Crown Court on 23 January. HP10 9TY. RO1 (T) Served from 1970 - 1975 Served in HMS Ganges. Helpful Report abuse Kindle Customer Sorting The Wheat From The Chaff Reviewed in the United States on March 28, 2014 Our abuse contact API returns data containing information belonging to the abuse contact of every IP address on the Internet. John Garrett. Tony Hayden. Photos showing the rusting mast at the former site of HMS Ganges at Shotley peninsula have been released on social media, prompting concerns that the 142ft high structure is not being properly. Allegations of Abuse. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Read about our approach to external linking. It was as we crossed the parade ground the whole bunch of us suddenly froze and spun to face a huge aircraft-hanger-of-a-building running along its length. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. I had thought that our group were the only sailors, if we dared call ourselves that, in this annexe, but I was soon to discover there was a continuous rotation of faces, each at various stages of initiation, a small factory taking in baby civilians at one end and throwing out almost sailors into the real HMS Ganges at the other. "A lot of the boys came from foster homes, or Barnardos. There was also a degree of sexual abuse going on at Ganges, but we boys were too scared to ever complain or report such incidents. I joined Ganges 30th June 1955 also as a boy telegraphist. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. what an incredible article, thanks for that dave, how far did you get up that mast? They looked like what we didn't, sailors. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). The former treasurer of a naval veterans' organisation has been jailed for 18 months after nearly 80,000 was withdrawn from its accounts. The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT (Image: Archant). July 27, Awarded the Freedom of Ipswich. My instructors were Nobby Clarke and Ted Roe. She had taken on the previous duties from the wooden ship H.M.S. The only thing I can remember of that awesome night, apart from collecting a kit bag and filling it to capacity with kit, was sobbing myself to sleep and that I ate the biggest meal I'd ever eaten in my entire 15 years of life. This gallery has been set up as a home for images that have not so far been added to the Museums Official Website https://www.hmsgangesmuseum.com/ He was fondling my right cheek as I tried to concentrate on pipping. His early life was hard by any standards. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. Some boys failed the initial inspection which only lengthen their time in the freezing conditions. Outbreak of World War One. She was the last wooden wall ship to be a flagship, and the last to sail around cape horn unassisted. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Shotly Jan 7 1967 , 4 weeks in the annex, 11months in the main establishment,left the RN after 26 years, as C.C.MEA(P) and you could tell Ganges trained men a mile off, Regrets not a bit.Sorry for the lad in my class that drank a pint of pussers disinfectant (The black stuff that turned white when you added water) I believe he got his Discharge. In the first week of January it was snowed even harder and it snowed until March. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. ", The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). You are using an out of date browser. Network 157.90../16 Abuse Contact API. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can 1903. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Observer career path/ real life experience. He was subsequently dismissed from the service and returned to civilian life. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. Frederick "Ben" Rodgers author of "Lily & Me", "The Royal Navy & Me" and collector of Rover automobiles, Review from Newfoundland CraigChurchill. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. Tangible progress to transform a former Suffolk naval training base into nearly 300 homes, a sports park, shops and a GP surgery could be seen once the coronavirus lockdown is over. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. The HMS Ganges Museum previously said restorers would remove the wooden part of the mast for refurbishment off site and they would then check the condition of the steel lower mast. Report abuse. 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Ganges will for ever be the legacy of every young boy who passed through those distant gates to emerge as a sailor and a man. The mast has been a local landmark since it was erected a century ago this year at the end of the Shotley peninsular. The master at arms held a long thin bamboo cane, the instrument of the punishment. The Cattlemarket area of Ipswich would be busy at weekends with boys in full naval uniform. 2023 BBC. (LogOut/ Initially, training continued to be carried out on the vessel, but after the completion of a shore-based facility at Shotley, the ship was sent to be broken up. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's I was so fearful of that oncoming event I was becoming a nervous wreck, each night reading the next day's daily orders, wondering if tomorrow would be the day I crapped my pants in public. The showers at Ganges were just one bare room with several shower heads, no privacy. My DO was so unforgetable I can't remember his name, but he ponced around with his handky up his sleeve and a curled lip. HMS Ganges moved moorings from Harwich to Shotley. Life on the ship was extremely hard, with a memorial in Mylor, Cornwall, recording the names of 53 people who died while training on it between 1866 and 1899. Please Login or Register. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. 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This was followed by a leap from the diving board, as high as any tree I'd ever climbed, wearing the waterlogged boiler suit and a lifejacket. During the third disastrous week, it spent so much time on the deck I thought I might as well leave it there! If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . According to the HMS Ganges Museum, her timbers were used to make objects including a grand staircase on an estate, and a cocktail bar in a small hotel, both in Devon. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Name Hetzner Online GmbH - Contact Role. Engineer commander had been on Amethyst up the Yangtse and was quite sympathetic when he was OOD. Helpful. You are using an out of date browser. Martin Foster was treasurer for veterans who served at HMS Ganges training base in Sufffolk. I was sent to the training Ship HMS Ganges a cruel harsh 12 months lay ahead of me and thousands of other boys. . 1959 and what a bugger Ganges turned out to be. October, new Shore Establishment created and commissioned as Royal Navy Training Establishment, Shotley. Should one of letters be a millimetre out, you found the lot on the deck when you returned to the mess. Dec 30, 2016. Was anything in this navy free from fear? May 46 to HMS Wakeful, Training Flotilla for a twelve-week tour from . I arrived at Ganges in the late afternoon on March 15th 1955, along with roughly a hundred other fifteen year old boys. Hetzner Online GmbH, Industriestrasse 25, D-91710 Gunzenhausen, Germany +49 9831 505-0 abuse@hetzner.com. This punishment was something I never witnessed and can only describe from what other boys told me. 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