Both these shoemakers offer value far and a way above a UK shoe at a similar price point so they really are worth a look for a person prepared to put in the effort. EL, I think you kind of answered the question in your first statement. But I am not a US citizen, at least no chauvinism involved. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. 2. We start at the top end of that market, and then gradually work our way down. The US has several brands that fit into this discussion - some old, some new. Customers love the shape of the Almond Toe-Boxes of Meermin shoes Many believe that that design adds well to the elegance of the shoes. Meermin HOK 8.5E UK: Pretty decent fit with boot socks. Frankly, I wouldnt wear anything else. CARMINA belvtor.by - CARMINA 100% 10016 U www.clinicarinologica.com - 6.5 CARMINA ecovitaconstrutora.com.br 17,500 . Not sure why this is the case. Not a thick sock last. Allen Edmonds Sizing to Carmina & Meermin Those that have Allen Edmonds and carmina or meermins, what size do you wear in AE compared to the others? Again, a big thank you to Simon and Jesper for the article. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. I even got a pair of Lobb Chapels for 245 in 2009. Overall, Meermin shoes are great shoes, but they appear to be poorly finished when compared to Carminas. Kyle from Baker's later told me that my instep width is more like EE/EEE, which is what causes many of my fit issues around the mid-foot. Arch support was a bit painful the first wear but feels great after a few hours. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. I have this problem as well. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. Thanks EL. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. I guess you get what you pay for but this level of quality for the leather should be mentioned. Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. Theyre a solid make with a little paid for the brand, and decent value in the States - though not elsewhere, where duties make them much more expensive. Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today! As you mentioned, the C&J sole is flat and not very detailed, but the leather is thick but very supple and significantly more comfortable than any other shoe I have over the course of the day. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. Even though mine are lace-ups, breaking in has actually been very easy and I also feel like they are totally worth the money. 5 years ago, I probably would have bought an Oxford of some kind. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. Carminas just dont break down easily. They last forever, but unfortunately they are even stiffer than Meermin shoes (really didnt like those), and take a year or two to wear in. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. Theyre perhaps most similar to Skolyx, in being a very simple make but with good materials. With TLB, you could choose a more versatile dark-brown calf, or perhaps brown suede but with leather soles. Please support us by using them. This is very useful, thank you. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. ??? The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. I typically shy away from the lighter browns etc.. and thought this might be a good alternative and could be quite versatile. It wont make them extremely soft, but should help in the process. Interesting ! For someone who was a first time buyer of Northampton shoes, that process was indispensable. There are many levels at tanneries, and cheaper brands dont get the same quality or the first selection. One think really dont understand is why GC dilute their brand with the C&J RTW line instead of focusing on the Anthony Cleverley line which I hardly see being sold anywhere. Does that refer to leather- or rubber ones? Im a student in Sweden and I have worn a couple of the brands mentioned in the article (and in the comment section) during the last couple of years. Dress socks. DESCRIPTION VIEW MODELS Forest is Carmina's most archetypal and early last. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Matty: Late reply, but noticed your comment just now. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. Ive never understood why they tried to branch out so much. I have not found any better service than that provided by the C&J shops in Jermyn Street (and actually at the factory shop on the one occasion I managed to visit). I have dainite soled storm welted trickers penny loafers and also commando soled stows, and I cant see myself wearing them much with anything aside from jeans or super casual chinos/corduroys. Ie if you spend 500 on a pair of shoes youd probably be looking at circa 2,000 for your suit and 150 for your shirt. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. Particularly annoying is when they talk about cutting out a middle man, and going straight to consumer. Carmina Simpson 8.5UK: Tried for oxfords but had to return, instep was too low for closed lacing. I have some upcoming which Ill be updating once arrived. Might not be the same for everyone, but many who havent tried bespoke shoes would be very happy once they do, that Im quite sure off. * **Viberg 2030** 8 snug but not too tight, * **Viberg 2030** 8.5 a bit loose in the heel in CXL, comfortable when laced tightly all the way up, * **Winson OLD Edlyn** EU41 sized on advice of Emil via foot measurements, a touch short. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. Much better quality than todays Allen Edmonds at comparable prices. When I do, Im a repeat customer (for instance, narrow EG 202 Chelseas) but my narrow feet preclude me from buying most brands shoes. Any other leather I handled was absolutely fine! 65 last 10D: Bad fit. If it is plastic, it means it cant adapt to your heel shape over time, improving the fit. With its classic and timeless design, this last seems to resist the course of time. The same is true for the tailors and the small number of shops I use for RTW clothing. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. A bespoke suit certainly flatters the owner, makes them look good. Also, I dont think youve ever written about painted patina on shoes . Maybe even a philosophical one. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Heel is kind of big for an oxford shoe it turns out, stick to a boot for this last. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. I returned this pair. Carmina shoes have better soles than the Meermin shoes. I would instead recommend taking this last TTS and just wearing thick socks as sometimes it can run small. Meermins have also been fine, especially for suede loafers. Feel free to include any additional information about your feet, such as: Specific circumferential measurements (as requested by Bakers, Russell Moccasin, etc). Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Carminas Quality Control is definitely another trait that makes these shoes better than Meermin shoes. A reader even referenced it in a comment above on this post. Hi Simon, you mentioned at the top that Carmina doesnt use plastic heel stiffener. Carminas actually have better fits than Meermin shoes. No issues on 5+ hour rides. Now use your measurement and select the size based on your foot's length (see size chart below). Even more troubling is that I found no review by an established website stating so. I wear 9EE in AE (65 last) and want to try carminas. This article, then, is an analysis of the market for mens dress shoes below the Crocketts Handgrade level - all informed by Jesper. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes, but they are also more valuable. On the raw materials, you get oak-bark tanned soles, you get the top level of upper, and so on. "But at the same time, I do think you get better value now for a 200 shoe than you did 10 years ago, despite inflation, because theres so much more competition. Please take a look. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Good plan. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. Meermin Hiro: 10D (9UK), I can walk miles in these in thin/medium socks but would strongly prefer more toe room. In addition they come in some very handsome styles. I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. Good engineer last and terrible service boot, there's a reason they never went production on em. Similar wide heel to the 1035. Old Edlyn is equivalent to a 41.5, * **Winson Qilin** EU42 fantastic fit all round, * **Winson Stark** EU42 Great fit on an engineer, instep is high enough to slip and and off and there is only a bit of heel slip due to the shaped heel. Baker's recommended 8.5D, but I think I would have been happier with 9D. They may not be top tier but they certainly are hard wearing. What struck a cord for me is consistency of (most) english manufacturers. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. Velasca uses a Blake/Rapid construction, so not Goodyear welted - but remember Blake/Rapid is more similar to Goodyear than it is to normal Blake. 8UK was much too loose. My 20 year old AS are still in great shape as are my relatively newer C&J I also have a pair of Loding chelsea boots (and other Loding things) I think in the end theyre too narrow for me. Brett has called it an EE width in the past, I don't think its much wider than the 2030 at the ball where it matters most, but the heel is extra wide and the toe box doesn't taper as much so there's more toe room as well. I guess what I am saying is that depending on where youre, the good value for under certain dollar amount list will really change for you. As Carmina did when it first became popular, and as TLB Artista (below) is perhaps doing now. It requires more knowledge to be able to see the difference between welted shoes at different stages of the quality segment, in general. The dress shoes classics hold their own. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. The Santos shoes that I own are comparable in quality to my Carmina, Cheaney and C&J mainline shoes. In contrast, Ive always found EGs service excellent but my interactions (outside of lockdown) are entirely based on the Jermyn Street store and I cant say Ive asked for anything unusual. Pepe Albaladejo runs Meermin with his father Jose, who founded the company in 2001 by selling through the legendary shoe mecca that is Tokyo's Isetan department store. Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. This means the number of brands to cover increases, as they do at the bottom of most clothing categories, so towards the end we divide into regional sections instead. Perhaps if I lived in Spain I would got to a Carmina store to gauge their quality and service. 18 Last 10: Great fit. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Indeed the leather is really stiff. Viberg 310E 8.5: Roomy in all directions but toe ball lines up with lowest part of the sprung toe forefoot and widest part of foot lines up with widest part of boot. Berwick is very good quality and seems to be stealing some of Loakes market share in the U.K. Prices at the well known shoe store near Victoria undercut Loake. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. A couple of years ago, I returned two pairs of Oxfords that needed resoling after less than ten wears each. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. I'm trying to suss out sizing for several models: I don't know if I can help, but I will give it a go - do bear in mind, of course, that everyone's feet are different. To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. One thing I could never understand is why, from lower to higher price points, RTW makers dont provide more width options. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? Please take a look. Our builds will give about .25 size in the long run, on average. No one see this though, its only for yourself. Less so in the winter. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. The manager gave me a significant discount for resoling them but, even after three decades as a loyal customer, I would be reluctant to buy from them again. Was no question about it in any of the cases). Perhaps my favorite, but I'd need more time with the boots to decide. Cheers Michael, its hard to appreciate that price differential from over here in the EU. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. !!! Ive since moved on to other brands because I wanted higher quality. I found it a source of much misinformation. Sizing down 1 from your HTT could be tricky. Ive tried Lobb, G&G and EG and have notice better uppers but not an increase in comfort compared to C&J handgrade that to me, are the sweet spot of the English shoe made in Northampton at a sensibly lower prices than the top makers. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. Is higher volume though. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Meermin shoes are also very comfortable due to the relaxed feel of their Double Insoles System but they are not as comfortable as the Carmina shoes. I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. From my personal experience, there has been a decline in quality in inverse proportion to price increases. Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . There is decent toe room in spite of how tapered the chisel last looks. Seemed comfortable at first but the more I wore it, the more I realized it just doesn't work for me. Bought before I understood my size. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive Ive also, more recently, experienced the customer service at GC and G&G excellent in both cases, as was the consistently good service at the Little Cheaney shop in Leeds, when I lived in the North of England. Meermin shoes are highly trendy and fashionable shoes. Thanks Aidan. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. Alden TruBalance 9D: Its just so good. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5FUK comfortable. Finally somebody else who has experienced Meermin shoes as very hard to break in. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. The English brands at this price level are Loake (1880 range, above) and Barker, both of whom make their uppers in Asia to cut down on costs. Theyre all Spanish except Septieme Largeur, which is French but made in Spain. Brands like Cheaney, Churchs, Trickers and Grenson dont feature here? Good point about Allen Edmonds. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. Thanks, Simon, Ive read those already. Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. Just make sure Trickers does not end up too chunky for you. What I had in mind though was a roundup like this one with Jespers input. Though, unsure of sizing, thanks. At C&Js benchgrade level, you can choose from black or chestnut calf (both with a leather sole), or brown suede with a rubber sole and youre limited to their 348 last. I'd probably be good with a 10E. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. I'm also guessing that either 9 or 9.5 in their new wide sizes would work well. Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. Not least their finer ranges are really nice IMO. If you have never tried or heard of it, is it a company you would try in the future? Finally, this last is fairly conservative, with less sleek lines than the C&J, Carmina, Weston, etc. Looking forward to this. and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. I cant really comment Im afraid Sebastian, having never owned any. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 In durability? Moreover, theres no industry standard in how to name these things so anyone can call anything what they like. These are sockless only. Buying a pair of Meermins is not a decision that you are going to regret, trust me. Do you know what thats down to? "The quality control isnt quite as good as the English as well.. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. RON 9: Terrible fit. Theyre not as refined as the other Asian brands, but stand out for making Goodyear in the old-school way, stitching directly to the insole. So, rather than the gemming method that most modern Goodyear shoes have, where a canvas ribbing is used instead. F. E. F. Extra-wide. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. Carmina shoes are stylish, comfortable, unique, durable, and very cost-effective. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. My understanding is that AE is below the likes of Crocketts in terms of make, but thats based on the input of people like Jesper who know more about them than I do. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. Its a narrow last with a very high instep. Thanks for your efforts! There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. You basically double your costs from stock carry. Meermins are stylish shoes, but they are also quite practical as well. The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. I think I could tell the difference between a standard C&J and EG from a distance, though I wouldnt like to put that to the test! Slightly low instep and volume. Not sure I'd feel the same today. Berwick uses corrected grain for some of its models (this is what stopped me from buying a pair). Foot extends past footbed on sides. Free shipping for many products! 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